Barony of    North Cadbury                                                                                  Somerset   ·   England                                                                                                                                                                                                           Erected by King William I. about AD 1066                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               'Keeping history alive'                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

    Advice on Aquiring an English Lordship or Barony Title

                 

             IMPORTANT ADVICE        

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  Caveat emptor  -  "Let the buyer beware"


1. Legal Aquisition

2. Root of Title, Statutory Declarations and full consecutive set of deeds

3. Historic Research and Records - Accuracy of History

4. Feudal Barony and Parliamentary Barony - the difference

5. The Abolition of Tenures Act 1660

6. New legal rights for the use of Lordship and Barony Titles

7. The Crown Estate and feudal Lordships - dormant or whose owners are not known

8. Caution notice to several allegedly enlightening websites and websites in the social media networks

9. Title Registry

10. Legal Notice published in The Gazette (formally The London Gazette)

11. Importance of UK Registered Solicitors (SRA - Solicitors Regulation Authority) 

12. Solicitor's confirmation letter with proof of conveyance   

ADVICE 


1. Legal Aquisition                                                                                                                                        

A title interested individual intends to obtain the transfer of a feudal title and to acquire the legal right to style him or herself Lord or Lady of the Manor of X or Lord or Lady of X or Baron or Baroness of X or Earl or Countess of X, all feudal titles dating back to the medieval times. The holder of an English feudal title is a custodian of a piece of English history.                                

The aquisition of a genuine manorial or feudal title is a serious transaction and requires correctly executed legal documentation. Real Feudal Lordship titles which are provably dormant and not in use can be fully legal created (also defined as re-created, restored or reconstructed), aquired and transferred by legal process. UK Registered Solicitor(s) (SRA) should verifying the process and the compliance of the legal requirements of legal rights to the creation of each title.

Alleged Lordship titles based e.g. on adverse possession, registration as (international) trademark, a 'square foot of land' (also called 'souvenir plots') or even so-called self-styled Lordships, are IN NO CASE genuine and legal titles and DO NOT enable the ownership of a Lordship title. These titles whichever are NOT genuine, thus unlawfull!       

Also a feudal Lordship title is UNIQUE - there can only be ONE LEGAL OWNER of a title at one and the same time. 

                

2. Root of Title, Statutory Declarations and full consecutive set of deeds                                   

The majority of lordship titles do not have any legal documentation to prove ownership. i.e. the required complete set of correctly executed and consecutive set of deeds dating back to time of Crown Grant or Time Immemorial (3rd September 1189), whichever is earliest.                    Potential owners may try to claim lordships using historic records i.e. Court Rolls or Statutory Declarations, but these are NOT an acceptable replacement in law for missing deeds, ownership CANNOT be proven this way.

After the latest court cases (Burton & Bamford v Walker & Others, Land Registry REF/2007/1124 (10 December 2010) and Walker & Others v Burton & Anor [2012] EWHC 978 (Ch) (17 April 2012), the 'Root of Title' or ownership of a Lordship CANNOT be proven by a signed Statutory Declaration by the last known purported owner.

In the case that the owner's deeds and documents of title are not sufficient alone to prove legal title to sell, a Statutory Declaration by a vendor (which supposedly founded in 1906) IS NOT a legal remedy to proof ownership as confirmed in the above mentioned latest court cases! A Statutory Declaration PROVES NOT that a vendor is the owner of a manorial Lordship, but rather that he probably does not! In addition, this company thinks it is the only legitimate seller of manorial titles, but it is not.

Also Court Rolls, sworn statements, partial deeds or a family 'interest' DO NOT PROVE ownership of a Lordship or Barony. They CANNOT be relied upon as an alternative, they are NOT an acceptable replacement in law for missing or incorrectly executed deeds. An independent legal report by expert Barrister Mr Paul Stafford clearly explains the law regarding ownership of a Lordship, ownership CAN ONLY be proven by a complete, correctly excecuted and consecutive chain of deeds from time of grant or Time Immemorial, 3rd September 1189, which are exceptionally rare. Without the complete set of Lordship deeds, as proof of ownership, it is impossible to prove ownership but also who is the real owner. The Court case Beaumont v Jeffery 1925; confirmed there was no requirement for the Lord of the Manor to retain manorial records. This was overturned by amending legislation added to the Law of Property Act 1922. This does mean though that many manorial records were lost or had been destroyed.

Whilst most Lordships have lost their proof of ownership (with a complete, correctly executed and consecutive set of deeds) and therefore their rightful 'owners'. But Manorial Counsel Ltd. leading purveyor of manorial lordships has the exclusive rights to legalise the use of Lordship titles, so that they can continue to be part of our living history. This only reputable vendor has a completely legal solution to transfer feudal or manorial titles in absolute legal conformity - without transferring titles with anyway invalid Statutory Declarations. These are real titles backed up by law!    

Where there is no proof of ownership, or historic records suggesting a potential ownership, Manorial Counsel use the law, as identified by their legal team, to create a new legal right based on the original to enable the legal use and ownership of the lordship title again. Laws can change over the centuries, decades or years and open up new possibilities, also in English common law or property law, as we can see in this new legal right to use real manorial lordships again.

Even if members and friends of a certain seller or society think they are only real lords of the manor, they can believe that, but unfortunately they are wrong. They don't want to see all the facts and a title based on Statutory Declaration isn't legal. The rulings of Burton & Bamford v Walker & Others and Walker & Others v Burton & Anor makes this application practically impossible. Also i.e. Court Rolls or partial deeds are not valid as evidence. Only a correct executed and complete chain of deeds proves ownership of a manorial title. Alternatively, the application of new legal rights - as identified and verified by London Barristers and Solicitors - can bring dormant feudal titles back into use. These offered titles are based on the original granted by the Crown already many hundreds of years ago, which are dormant and re-created by legal process. Proof of ownership of a Manor shall be the legal documentation/conveyance deeds and the solicitor’s letter with proof of conveyance.                                                                Where there is no proof of ownership, or historic records suggesting a potential ownership, Manorial Counsel use the law, as identified by their legal team of London barristers and solicitors, to create a new legal right based on the original to enable the legal use and ownership of the lordship title again.                                                                                                                            If thorough research is carried out among clients of Manorial Counsel, it can be ascertained that some lordship title holders among them are lawyers - have they also fallen for forgeries? That cannot be assumed, but in fact it confirms the authenticity of the feudal lordships.

                                                     

3. Historic Research and Records - Accuracy of History

Historic records concerning Lordships cannot be relied on as proof of ownership:

  1. History recording is not regulated,
  2. Historic records contradict themselves as two historians never write exactly the same thing, historians only record what they know and different historians will have different information available to them,
  3. Historians could not tell if acquisition of a Lordship was legal or illegal.
If an interested party to acquire a lordship through the reliance of a version of a family tree and history he can never be certain that the informations are correct. For example, a typical lordship could have at least twenty changes of ownership and for some this can be many more. For each of these changes of ownership the family tree or history can be incorrect. Sometimes there are different family trees and different chains of ownership for the same lordship. This comes about by there being so few records dating back in many instances 1,000 years. Then one can only rely on the most reliable source with the most verification has been found.    


4. Feudal Barony and Parliamentary Barony - the difference      

A feudal Barony is the earliest form of barony. The term was used for a collection of overlordships, so has its existence justified by rights over land. A Baron would have rights over a group of Lords. Feudal baronies were sold and conveyed like lordships so are property. Under the laws of real property in the United Kingdom, manorial or feudal Lordships are known as ‘Estates in land’. They are in English common law as well as in English property law classified as incorporeal hereditaments and are therefore inheritable to the next generation.                           The feudal Baron is the original predecessor of the parliamentary Baron where a feudal Baron was summoned to parliament directly by the King. The first Lords in the House of Lords - in medieval times Curia regis, the Latin term for the King's Council, Royal Council or King's Court - came from the Feudal Barons and Earls that managed the people and land across the country. These are known as peerages - this term superseded the term "baronage" used of the feudal era - and granted by the Crown to individuals. Unlike feudal baronies these cannot be sold, bought and conveyed. When granted the Crown decided whether the peerage would be inheritable or if it would become extinct when the holder died. Where a Baron has no heirs a peerage barony becomes extinct.                                                                                                                                      Both English feudal titles and peerage titles, are different next to each other existing titles of rank and name with a common root and history. More about the differences is to read under British Titles System.


5. The Abolition of Tenures Act 1660                                                              

The fact is that this act from 1660 DID NOT ABOLISH English feudal Baronies, as often purported on websites or by people which claim to clarify the legality of feudal Baron and Lordship titles. The clue is in the name, it merely removed tenures (paying tax or rent in service (knight service) and not money). Under this Act many Baronies by tenure were converted into Baronies by writ, the rest ceased to exist as feudal Baronies by tenure, becoming Baronies in free socage, that is to say under a "free" (hereditable) contract requiring payment of monetary rents. Thus Baronies could no longer be held by military service.

The operator of such dubious websites have NOT EITHER experience NOR the slightest knowledge about manorial law, English custom law or English property law. English custom law (statute law and common law) and English property law are very complicated and mostly relate to precedencial cases which are often not to find out so easily. Simply said these website owners are NOT to be able to accept the legal facts and do NOT telling the truth. There are a few wannabe enlightener and wiseacres in this field, which lean on rumors and not on fundamental legal facts. These supposed undeceiving people don't know nothing at all!                      

English feudal Baronies which are for instance provably dormant and not in use, CAN be continuing lawfully (re-) created, sold, aquired and re-assigned.                                                            

Here are some examples of ENGLISH feudal Baronies which also have been sold even in years past i.a. distributed by a company allegedly existing since 1906: the Barony of Gilsland, Lincolnshire (1993), the Barony of Kendal, in the English historic county of Westmorland (now Cumbria), the Barony of Pencelli Castle(2003), the Barony of Langley, Tynedale, Northumberland (2006) or so the Barony of Eye, Suffolk (2007). All these mentioned and several more were sold, despite the allegations The Abolition of Tenures Act 1660 abolished English feudal titles?! Also an enormously remarkable article, isn't it?                                               

Once again in conclusion: the fact is that English feudal Baronies are NOT abolished and can be rightful created by legal process, aquired and conveyed, and also be inherited in the same way as manorial Lordships.

Often the terms reconstructed or restored are also used for the creation by legal process. Both terms are absolutely legitimate terms for the (re-) creation and transfer of a feudal title. It doesn't matter how it is called if restored, reconstructed or otherwise, in fact it doesn't matter on the transfer of titles.

Regarding to English feudal Baronies, there has been at least one legal opinion from 1996 of A W & C Barsby, Barristers of Grays's Inn, which confirms the continuing legal existence of the feudal Barony in England and Wales.


6. New legal rights for the use of Lordship and Barony Titles

There are new legal rights based on the original granted by the Crown and like the originals inheritable and to pass to the next generation.                                                                                       Manorial Counsel Ltd. the leading expert in the assignment of manorial titles applies the new law underlying English custom law and English property law for the sale and transfer of manorial titles.
The new legal right applied by Manorial Counsel is created by thoroughly researching the original right and then passing the research through a feasibility study using unique predictive methodology.  This determines the dormancy of the original and forms the basis of the new legal right, based on the original. The new legal right can only be created if the predictive methodology proves the dormancy of the original.  This means that the new legal right cannot be created without the existence of the original lordship, and the original having no legal owner. Where there is no proof of ownership, or historic records suggesting a potential ownership, Manorial Counsel uses the law, as identified by their legal team, to create a new legal right based on the original to enable the legal use and ownership of the lordship title again.

The legal right is certainly a trade secret for reasons of competition and for understandable reasons not publicly available. Nevertheless, the applied method of creation and conveyance of manorial titles is fully legal and in accordance with the law. The legally compliance is thoroughly proved and will be confirmed by UK registered Solicitors to each title.


7. The Crown Estate and feudal Lordships - dormant or whose owners are not known   

Although all unowned property passes to the Crown, the Crown still has to prove there is no owner. This takes extensive knowledge and time, which the Crown would have to research and undertake.

The Crown Estate has decided that this is too much work for the value of the Lordship, so make NO CLAIMS for Lordships which are dormant, not in use and where the owners are not known.

Therefore, the assignment of a lordship title by a reputable vendor is absolutely lawful and legitimate under the applied new legal right.


8. Caution notice to several allegedly enlightening websites and websites in social media networks                                                                                    

Beware of advices and comments on websites or in social media networks of alleged serious heraldic or manorial societies e.g. The International Heraldry Society. Their owner or members (some of them are also manorial Lords who are bearers of a coat of arms) are sometimes not reliable and do not always telling the truth, they mean to be right. Mostly they have absolutely no knowledge about manorial law or English custom law. Some people believe as a member of any society, whether heraldic or manorial, they are outstandingly persons and they are only be right. Some of these seems to lack the behaviour and the manner of a Gentleman or Lord and do not act very honourable. They use this as a platform to talk negatively about others. Some alleged members of such Facebook websites e.g. Members and Friends of the Manorial S..., only have the one sense to run down other people to enhance themselves. The allegedly honorable proprietors of this society (or any other), their website and facebook site and even some of their members are participated in the denigration and defamation of other feudal Lords. Really not very honorable, thus appears in a rather dubious light.                                                                      The main thing is to be a member of any society. But that doesn't make you a Lord at all, also not as bearer of a coat of arms. Membership of any club or society doesn't make you a Lord. It isn't necessary to be a member in any club or society to be a Lord. Membership doesn't prove you're actually a Lord, nor that you hold a family coat of arms.                                                                    Also a few people hang out in these groups purport to have real titles or adorn oneself with fantasy or self styled titles. Detailed internet research reveals these are fakes which have nothing to do with genuine titles. Some have bought their titles based on Statutory Declaration, as already mentioned before, this document doesn't prove ownership of a Lordship. Accordingly, only with great attention is to assume advice, opinions and comments from previously mentioned societies in social media networks and their public groups. Attention also to self-styled enlightener with their dubious websites filled with false pretences.                                     Expert advice (with legal support), existing facts and a good common sense should be taken into consideration.


9. Title Registry                                                                                                                                            

Currently exists NO independent, reliable and officially recognised Manorial Lordship and Barony Register or other so-called Register to record any feudal title in legal ownership entirely correct and truthfully. Any register which purports to be an official (National) Register in any form carries NO significance or authority in law.                                                                               Since the Land Registry (as the only government agency) ceased registration of manorial titles in 2003, there is no longer the opportunity to record officially who owns which title.

In fact there is still an official register, namely The Gazette (formally The London Gazette) in which Lordships and Baronies are published and registered. The Gazette is the official journal of record of Her Majesty's Government. As the publication is limited to the legal community all its entries are judged to be true. More under the following point 7. Legal Notice published in The Gazette.

The announcements of feudal Lords and Barons are recorded unter 'Other Notices'. There are different possibilities to find these.


10. Legal Notice published in The Gazette (formally The London Gazette)             

The London Gazette is one of the official journals of record of the British government and the most important among such official journals in the United Kingdom, in which certain statutory notices are required to be published.
The legal conveyance and ownership of a feudal or manorial title can be officially announced and recorded in The Gazette. It operates under strict Government and Crown approval and consists largely of statutory notices and also announces the Queen's Honors. The Gazette is published by TSO (The Stationery Office) on behalf of Her Majesty's Stationery Office. They are subject to Crown copyright.                                                    

The entire content of the publication is dedicated to necessary publishing of legal notices, events and announcements. That implies that there are some legal requirements for the notice placer to advertise a notice in The Gazette. As an official public record, notices can ONLY be placed in The Gazette by REGISTERED AND VERIFIED persons acting in an official capacity, who have the authority to create an official record of fact.                                                                             A notice in The Gazette officially announces whether the title was granted or established by the Crown or legally created and tranferred by legal process and in this case who is the acting solicitor; see 'All notices' and 'Other Notices' of manorial Lordships and feudal Baronies.                                     

At present, there is only one recognised and reliable title agent - supported by UK registered legal professionals - that publishes their created and conveyed titles in The Gazette. The announcements of titles recorded in The Gazette can be seen as a kind of Who's Who of actually existing Lordships.  


11. Importance of UK registered Solicitors (SRA - Solicitors Regulation Authority*)     

Solicitors will in principle verify whether the selling company or person is the legal owner and does the owner have the legal right to sell the title at all. Solicitors examine and confirm as well the legal assignability as the conveyance.

And in addition, there are no reasons not to use the solicitors employed by the title agent. The law firms working for the vendor are absolutely reputable and are legal experts in English Common Law and English Property Law and of course also in Manorial Law. 

*Please note: UK Registered Solicitors (SRA) will of course NEVER work against the law, because they risks to loose their licence!                                                                                                                 It is a criminal offence for someone in the UK to claim to be a practicing solicitor who is not. All practicing solicitors must be registered with the Solicitors Regulatory Authority (SRA) and are given an SRA registration number. On the SRA website you can check if a solicitor is legitimate. All solicitors also have to adhere to a strict code of conduct and each year many solicitors are struck off by the SRA for not meeting these standards.


12. Solicitor's confirmation letter with proof of conveyance                                               

This legal document (Solicitor's letter, confirmation, letter of introduction or statement) of a Solicitor (SRA) to each title, CONFIRMS FULL LEGAL OWNERSHIP and PROVES THE AUTHENTICITY to the respective manorial/feudal title absolutely reliable.                                 


    ADVICE 

At this point it is to say that we have collected some important facts that need to be considered. There are many false claims, distortions of facts and untruths due to competitiveness, ignorance, enviousness and jealousy. Not quite lordly characteristics. Sometimes it's just lack of knowledge. Even the denigration of a longer existing title vendor to another reputable Manorial title vendor should not unsettle a title interested in his decision to buy a title from this absolutely trusted vendor with fully legal support. This is a competitive battle which is not fair in any way or justified. These titles are real titles backed up by law! 

For all these foresaid reasons and detailed clarification, advice from the UK's Manorial Counsel Ltd., a renowned and reliable manorial expert supported by solicitors specialised in manorial law, should be sought before any transaction of title transfer. Manorial Counsel is the only purveyor of real manorial lordship titles originally created by the Crown and under application of new legal rights. These leading experts in manorial law and in dealing with genuine manorial titles handle such transactions and assign such titles in accordance with the new legal rights; London Counsels (Barristers) have been thoroughly reviewed the legality of rights to the Lordship and Barony titles and UK registered Solicitors (SRA) confirming the authenticity with the rights to each title and the legal conveyance. In this way legal assigned manorial Lordships and feudal Baronies by deed of conveyance are generally accepted. Trust only well-reputed title agent with support of a number of Solicitors (SRA), who applies new legal rights are based on the original granted by the Crown.


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